Saturday, April 18, 2009

HR 669 Animal Prohibitionist Agenda

The following content was found at the doves-pigeon Yahoo! Group:
THE ISSUE - WHAT IS HR 669? - WHAT WILL IT DO?
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"ONE GENERATION AND OUT" is not just limited to purebred dogs and cats. Now our "non-native" species" are targets of the animal prohibitionist agenda. Under HR 669, "non-native" basically means if a species of animal didn't live in the US before the arrival of Columbus it is "non-native", and if HR 669 passes, most non-native species of animal (I.e., exotic animals) won't remain in the US much longer. That means your exotic pet bird, reptile, fish, or mammal.
In other words what this bill states is nothing short of the total eradication of all non native animal species. In other words if you have a pet that is not indigenous to America, then when you die the pet must be put to sleep, killed.
It is worded to further state that you may not pass the animal to others when you die. You may not take the animal with you across state if you move, the animal must remain behind for extermination.
This is one of the most diabolic moves on the part of the NWO to dispose of millions of animals in the United States.
I have to say that I first heard of this today from my Brother who is a Master Falconer and very concerned about this issue being passed
I know many of you have pets that will fall under this bill if it is allowed to pass. Why has this only just now come to our attention? What can we do to stop the insane bills being thrown in before congress which not only strip our rights and freedoms from us but seek to murder some of the most beautiful animals on the planet?
Individuals are not the only ones who will be affected by this bill but private and public zoos conservation areas, animal sanctuaries, private breeders and more.
HR669 Is the anti animal bill and people need to be made aware before it is too late.
Even our precious ATS mascot is endangered by this proposed bill.
What really caught my attention is the 'wording' that is used , it is all encompassing to include even barter...
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All import, export, transport across State lines, selling, buying, bartering or offering to sell, buy or barter, and all breeding, and release, of all non-native species not on the "approved list" will be prohibited - even by zoos, sanctuaries, and licensed breeders. Permits authorizing only importation" may be issued to "zoos, scientific research, medical, accredited zoological or aquarium display purposes, or for educational purposes that are specifically reviewed, approved, and verified by the Secretary". There is no requirement that any permits be granted. Even if these institutions are able to obtain the required permits, where will they obtain their imported animals? Habitat for many species is declining worldwide, many species are endangered or threatened in the wild, and many species cannot be imported to the US under the CITES treaty. The result of this bill will be to put a stop domestic breeding of most endangered or threatened species in the US for zoos, conservation, or reintroduction programs. Zoos are not immune from the animal prohibitionist agenda.
There is hardly a pet or species in this country that was not brought here over the past 500 years, our tank of exotic fish? Even my pet chihuahua!
www.afabirds.org... [edit on 13-4-2009 by antar]
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Interesting topic. I find it strange why the people making this bill care so much about people ownig pets and exoctic animals, why do they care?I think any animal should be allowed to live as long as it is not a danger to the public.
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Thats right and also the creepy part of this whole bill. To take away the rights of Falconers you may as well place them in a cell, I know my brother probably read over 200 books cover to cover on the subject by the time he was 14 years old, he then continued his studies and passed every test he ever took 100% (yeah he got all the brains, lol)
It is not like they are getting tougher on the people who should not have exotic animals in their care, which does happen of course as those are the stories that hit the msm. But this bill seeks to end all life after this generation and the individual responsible for that pet cannot move out of state or pass the pet to another, breed it or trade, sell or giveaway, release the animal.
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The Comment Below Is In Favor Of HR 669:
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Here's what I posted in the other HR669 thread-
Well, if nonnative species are destroying the habitat of native species, or killing the native species, then its a problem. As a resident of Florida, I can attest to this. Exotic Animal Enthusiasts, or whatever you want to call them, don't always retain that enthusiasm when the animals become large or burdensome. So what do they do? They let them go in the wild, where eventually over time, they start breeding, and before you know it, there's a large population of nonnative species destroying the native environment.
Why do people find the need to own exotic animals? Some of these animals belong in their OWN native habitat, and not in someone's house. I live in Orlando now, but I lived my whole life in Ft. Lauderdale, where nonnative animals such as- Pythons, Boa Constrictors, Iguanas, Peacock Bass, and dozens of other nonnative species run amock. If exotic pet owners can't properly facilitate the animals they purchase, then they shouldn't be allowed to own them.
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The Following Person Above Wrote:
I would like to add one more thing-
Think about the exotic animal trade. Just the entire business of capturing, containing, distributing and selling these animals. It must be damaging to the animals and native environments as well. More and more I'm finding myself totally against exotic animal sales. Dogs and cats are a different story, they're domesticated, and kind of need us.
After a quick Google search, check these out-
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Illegal trade in wildlife is a $6 billion-dollar-a-year global industry that is detailed in a new report by the Wildlife Conservation Society (WCS). In "State of the Wild 2006," the organization puts forth what they know about wildlife populations. “Today, anything large enough to be eaten or lucrative enough to be sold is hunted on a massive scale for its meat, skin, fur or feathers, for the pet trade, or as an ingredient in traditional medicines,” said Elizabeth Bennett, director for WCS’s Hunting and Wildlife Trade Program. “Wildlife populations are crashing, and wild areas increasingly are losing their wildlife, becoming devoid of vibrancy and life.”
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Tigers are among the most fearsome predators in the wild. They are also among the most lucrative commodities for even greater predators — traffickers in the worldwide trade in endangered and exotic animal parts.
Two of those alleged traffickers, Todd and Vicki Lantz, of Missouri, are set to go on trial today in a case that sheds light on the multi-billion-dollar business of selling rare, beautiful animals.
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Humane Society -
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- In early August 2003, I found several tiger cubs available to the public via the Internet from a dealer in Arizona. Other cats, primates, small mammals, birds, and reptiles were available for sale, too. Tigers were priced from $900 to $7,000 each, depending on sex and color type. A baby chimp, however, would cost $50,000.
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- Right now, 26 tigers in New Jersey await relocation to a sanctuary in Texas after lengthy legal proceedings against their owner. In California, 39 tigers await placement in as yet undetermined locations after the state filed 63 charges against the animals' owners, including 17 counts of felony animal cruelty.
- In the last five years, nine people have been killed by tigers. Each year, 90,000 people are treated for salmonella infection contracted from reptiles. Since 1975, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has banned the import and sale of turtles under the size of 4 inches because of the salmonella threat to small children. This July, the Department of Health and Human Services indefinitely shut down the import and sale of African rodents for the U.S. pet trade after an outbreak of monkeypox, a human health threat traced to Gambian rodents that subsequently infected native prairie dogs being sold as pets.
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What The DoveCote thinks about HR 669:
The DoveCote is not in favor of this bill. Like one the comments above, almost non of the animals in america are native. That includes most breeds of dogs. The comment in favor of HR 669 was really unreasonable. If the person thinks that the animal should live where it belongs then why did they come to this country? I think that this person was really just unaware of many people in this country who have pets. Dogs and Cats are not the only type of animals that you can bond with. Please comment on this post,
Iqbal Niazi

Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Buying and Selling Doves and Pigeons

Buying and Selling Doves and Pigeons
By Iqbal Niazi

Doves and Pigeons can be sold at any price the bird is truly meant for. How can we know what the bird’s price is? Well, you have think about their qualities. But that does not mean you can put an extremely high price on the dove or pigeon. Some people really do not care how expensive they price their bird. I have been to dove and pigeon auction websites where they have pigeons higher than $500.00. That is really outrageous.

If you put your birds price really high than people will know that you are being cheap and trying to make money from one bird when you will normally make it out of two birds. Sometimes people do not know how hard it is for people to make money when you are raising a family, taking care of their birds, and working. For some of us dove and Pigeon hobbyists we know how hard it is. I usually sell my birds for half of the price of what I paid for.

Some people who know that they cannot take care of their pigeons do not sell them but they donate not cull them. I have heard of stories of people who cull birds that they find lost or just in their lofts. What is wrong with these people? First of all they should try to at least find the owner. But if they do not find the owner they should sell it or donate it to someone who might need it for their breeding program. I have recently actually adopted some birds from someone who couldn’t take care of them. That person was at least kind enough to not cull it, but find someone who needed it.

Iqbal Niazi

Tuesday, April 14, 2009

Shipping Expenses

"I recently read a post on SlobberKnocker Lofts Blog and it was about shipping costs. I also want to write about this matter. I think that Bob McGuan is right. When I went around some Dove and Pigeon Auction sites I saw many of the prices have gone up. I mean I really can't blame the owners since inflation has gone up really high. But prices shouldn't be that expensive. Some peoples shipping rates range from $35.00 to $45.00 for two to four birds. Now that price is okay. But when it gets up to the $65.00 to $80.00 that gets really expensive. They should biring their birds prices up like Bob McGuan said. Please remember that bringing your prices up to an extreme really makes your business bad. So please do not bring your shipping prices up."

Iqbal Niazi

Please click here to view the SlobberKnockerlofts Blog Entry I was referring to.

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